Oh, after. There was this one time when I was on Avalon and because the rules of reality are kinda different there, he could switch between being a dog and being a human. Then I met him again once or twice when he was stuck being a dog full time. He's a cute kid in either form. Just kinda grouchy and prone to both bark and bite.

[Then again, Gilgamesh did provoke him a lot whenever they met...]